Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories?

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

Please indicate if you have an on-going need for subsitute repositories for the older Linspires that have been dropped from support with the closing of CNR Warehouse.

Earlier than Linspire 4.5
Linspire 4.5
Linspire 5.0.59
None, using later versions

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

I currently have Linspire 5.0.59 installed on my main computer but not accessible due to unfinished business with an unbootable hard drive. I hope to get it back into operation soon so that I can test solutions to the repository/reinstallation issues.

Bligh · 02-April-2008

I am running 5.0.59 and 5.1.427, barring hardware failure, I am set. However, I do appreciate the spirit of this effort, especially on behalf of those that have committed so much. I will reserve my comments on this entire matter for other threads.
Cheers

Bro.Tiag · 02-April-2008

The problem with yur poll here Paul, is it doesna take into account the masses that do not show up & use the forums. We've always been told we are but a fraction of the user base. None of that really matters, it's the principal of the issue.

Cheers

JDoyle · 02-April-2008

Prior/Earlier than Linspire 4.5 would mean 4.0
Which has not been supported since the release of 5.0 - 3 years ago.
I doubt if anyone is still using 4.0

JD

revhouse1 · 02-April-2008

I've got 5.0.59 on two machines and Freespire 1.0 on a third.

tom

Dr.Jones · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDoyle

I doubt if anyone is still using 4.0

Funny you should post that - I got an Incident a couple weeks ago from someone using Lindows 4.0...

JDoyle · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

Funny you should post that - I got an Incident a couple weeks ago from someone using Lindows 4.0...

I still have a Lindows 4.5.316 install, but not 4.0

JD

Bro.Tiag · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDoyle

I still have a Lindows 4.5.316 install, but not 4.0

JD

I have 4.0 on a hard drive, but it's not in a computer, does that count? Also, I was going on with Tekmate 'bout the best versions of Lindows & I believe he said he still has a running 3.0.

Cheers

Dr.Jones · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro.Tiag

I have 4.0 on a hard drive, but it's not in a computer, does that count? Also, I was going on with Tekmate 'bout the best versions of Lindows & I believe he said he still has a running 3.0.

OK, sorry no one can convince me that Lindows 3.0 is the best OS you could be using on specific hardware

...

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro.Tiag

The problem with yur poll here Paul, is it doesna take into account the masses that do not show up & use the forums. We've always been told we are but a fraction of the user base. None of that really matters, it's the principal of the issue.

Cheers

Yes, I know that it is inadequate and not fully representative of the population of users of 'Legacy' Linspire OSes. But I felt it might be a help in gauging the amount of interest in this project.

The right thing would have been for Linspire to have advised the then current users of CNR Warehouse of its proposed closure and allowed them time to assess the impact that would have on them, provided some means of feedback and to discuss ways of ameliorating the negative impacts.

Now that is what I would have considered an honourable way to handle this, consistently with their earlier promotions.

Oponium · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGTips91

Yes, I know that it is inadequate and not fully representative of the population of users of 'Legacy' Linspire OSes. But I felt it might be a help in gauging the amount of interest in this project.

The right thing would have been for Linspire to have advised the then current users of CNR Warehouse of its proposed closure and allowed them time to assess the impact that would have on them, provided some means of feedback and to discuss ways of ameliorating the negative impacts.

Now that is what I would have considered an honourable way to handle this, consistently with their earlier promotions.

I think my friend sums it up in a few very good words (or sentences).

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they think they going to save the repos in their project but they so over their head they just dont know it yet

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they dont realize linspire already explored this option and its just too big of a project to warrant pulling away their resources from future linspire and cnr.com releases to play with legacy

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if its too big for linspire imagine a few community memebers

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problem is ppl in the forum think linspire not doing it cuz no money thats not the reason its a big freakin project

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they going to find out soon enough

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

There is something funny with the poll statistics.

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  Poll to 3/04/2008            
                        
  Version                      Number        Percentage
                                                      
 Earlier than 4.5                  0             0.0 %
 Linspire 4.5                      3            15.8 %
 Linspire 5.0                      5            26.3 %
 Later                            11            57.9 %
                                                      
 Total                            19           100.0 %

Dr.Jones · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGTips91

There is something funny with the poll statistics.

Earlier than 4.0 - 0 - 0.0 %
Linspire 4.5 - 3 - 15.8 %
Linspire 5.0 - 5 - 26.3 %
Later - 11 - 57.9 %

Total 19 100.0 %

OP chose Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 15.

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

OP chose Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 15.

Yes, you're correct. My bad.

So, by deduction, there are four who are using legacy versions and have voted, so far.

Dr.Jones · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGTips91

So, by deduction, there are four who are using legacy versions and have voted, so far.

That's a fair deduction (but not conclusive; because, someone could've selected Later and another option) there are at least 5 on an older version...

Bro.Tiag · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

OK, sorry no one can convince me that Lindows 3.0 is the best OS you could be using on specific hardware

...

Hey He said it, not me, I'm just spreading roamers.

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

That's a fair deduction (but not conclusive; because, someone could've selected Later and another option) there are at least 5 on an older version...

Well there are five votes for Legacy OSes. The poll is not conclusive as to the number of voters because it does not allow for all cases. The fourth choice reads "None - using later versions". My deduction of four users with five votes for Legacy OSes was based on that premise. Ie. 11 voters who are not using Legacy OSes, total voters 15.

The numbers are still too small to draw any real conclusions from. I hope more people will see the thread and vote. I want to gauge the demand for some support for Linspire 4.0 and 5.0.

Oponium · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGTips91

Well there are five votes for Legacy OSes. The poll is not conclusive as to the number of voters because it does not allow for all cases. The fourth choice reads "None - using later versions". My deduction of four users with five votes for Legacy OSes was based on that premise. Ie. 11 voters who are not using Legacy OSes, total voters 15.

The numbers are still too small to draw any real conclusions from. I hope more people will see the thread and vote. I want to guage the demand for some support for Linspire 4.0 and 5.0.

No offense, but that's about all the people that go here.

PGTips91 · 02-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oponium

No offense, but that's about all the people that go here.

No offense taken. They are not our 'target market' on this thread.

subslug · 03-April-2008

I only hope for your sake, a lot of people don't vote yes on here that have no intentions of actually using a legacy version.

I honestly voted that I don't need this. I've gone back a few times and installed older versions but quickly realize how far we've come.
If you're stuck, because of old hardware, using legacy versions I feel for you but if you're just using legacy because of stubbornness to update then I guess it's the price you have to pay.

Bligh · 03-April-2008

I sometimes wonder, where all of the people that once participated actively in the Linspire forums went and what os they are running?
Cheers

revhouse1 · 03-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bligh

I sometimes wonder, where all of the people that once participated actively in the Linspire forums went and what os they are running?
Cheers

Well, a large chunk of those that still hang around don't use *spire anymore.

tom

JDoyle · 03-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by revhouse1

Well, a large chunk of those that still hang around don't use *spire anymore.

tom

I do. Both of them. I also have several other distros that i play with. Right now 6.0.17 is my daily ride.

JD

Bro.Tiag · 03-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by revhouse1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bligh

I sometimes wonder, where all of the people that once participated actively in the Linspire forums went and what os they are running?
Cheers

Well, a large chunk of those that still hang around don't use *spire anymore.

tom

My daily ride is debian-sid, although my 4.5 install is on 24/7 mostly because it is my mail server & my media centre. As for not upgrading, well it is my opinion that 4.5 is the best *spire version suited for my hardware.

Cheers

chatan · 03-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bligh

I sometimes wonder, where all of the people that once participated actively in the Linspire forums went and what os they are running?
Cheers

Little off topic but....
When searching about a problem I was having eariler today, I ended up in SUSE and MINT forums and saw several of the old linspirians (sp?) in a single thread in each . macrohard and danorsk.

When the new *spires didn't work on my new machine and when CNR was having problems, I almost went to PCLinuxOS. Could have stayed with LOS5 but the new generation was just to good to stay in those days. PCLinuxOS is still on that machine and doing quite well for what I use of it. I ended buying a new PC from seawiser that is running LOS6 like a champ...so I'm still here

Cheers

kman · 03-April-2008

I still consider myself a beginner with linux even though ive been using freespire pretty much exclusivly since Jan. of 2007. I have tried so many distros of linux ( to many to list) . But i have found that freespire will install and run almost flawlesly on all five of my computers. All computers ranging in age from 10 years or more to 1year old. And i like that very much, but i was wondering if the reasons others may have left , if it might be that freespire is truely the easyest linux out there for beginners but hopefully gives you enough freedom to expand your knowledge and allow you to tweek your system. In other words have people left to challenge them selves to being able to install other distros and learn to use effectively?

subslug · 03-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by kman

In other words have people left to challenge them selves to being able to install other distros and learn to use effectively?

Probably.

After struggling for years with Linux and being fed up with the MS BS I happened upon Linspire and downloaded 4.5, installed it as easy as pie and pretty much learned everything I could about Linux from there. 4.5 was a dream and CNR was really the icing on the cake and even though I might not always use Linspire now I still realize it's worth for the folks it's intended for.
There maybe be a few other Linuxes around now that are newbie friendly but I basically cut my teeth on Linspire 4.5 which is a hell of a lot more than I ever accomplished on some other well known Linux versions.

The fact that I'm even able to try other Linuxes is due to Linspire IMO.

PGTips91 · 06-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by subslug

Probably.

After struggling for years with Linux and being fed up with the MS BS I happened upon Linspire and downloaded 4.5, installed it as easy as pie and pretty much learned everything I could about Linux from there. 4.5 was a dream and CNR was really the icing on the cake and even though I might not always use Linspire now I still realize it's worth for the folks it's intended for.
There maybe be a few other Linuxes around now that are newbie friendly but I basically cut my teeth on Linspire 4.5 which is a hell of a lot more than I ever accomplished on some other well known Linux versions.

The fact that I'm even able to try other Linuxes is due to Linspire IMO.

The old saying, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained." comes to mind.

When I got involved with Lindows, in the early days, I felt that I would never be able to get into Linux. So Lindows/Linspire/Freespire did get me started, and for that I am grateful.

That said, now that I have gotten past reliance on a commercial version of Linux and started to learn about the underlying system, I have learned more in the last six months than I did in six years using the *spires.

Part of the problem with *spires, IMHO, is that they tried to change too many things instead of building on the standard OS. Now that they have become 'Legacy' OSes these problems bedevil any attempt to support them.

My feeling, at the moment, is to forget all about the *spires and go with a more up-to-date Linux. Currently I am using Klikit-Linux 0.1-8 (beta) and finding it more useful and user-friendly than any of the *spires that I have tried. It's not for older machines, though. Works great with 512 MB RAM.

JDoyle · 06-April-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGTips91

My feeling, at the moment, is to forget all about the *spires and go with a more up-to-date Linux. Currently I am using Klikit-Linux 0.1-8 (beta) and finding it more useful and user-friendly than any of the *spires that I have tried. It's not for older machines, though. Works great with 512 MB RAM.

You realize that they are both built from *buntu?
6.0.17/2.0.8 and klikit are very similar.

JD

View Poll Results: What repositories do you need community support for?
Prior to Linspire 4.5	0	0%
Linspire 4.5	5	18.52%
Linspire 5.0	10	37.04%
None, using later version.	18	66.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 27. This poll is closed

02-April-2008	#1
PGTips91 Journeyman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 67 Posts: 486 Rep Power: 6	Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? Please indicate if you have an on-going need for subsitute repositories for the older Linspires that have been dropped from support with the closing of CNR Warehouse. Earlier than Linspire 4.5 Linspire 4.5 Linspire 5.0.59 None, using later versions __________________ Paul G. Taylor, Auckland, NZ LinuxUser_436483 - currently using Klikit-Linux 0.1-8 Lindows Life-time Insider, former life-time member of CNR Warehouse. Wiki : Reinstalling Linspire Applications

02-April-2008	#2
PGTips91 Journeyman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 67 Posts: 486 Rep Power: 6	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? I currently have Linspire 5.0.59 installed on my main computer but not accessible due to unfinished business with an unbootable hard drive. I hope to get it back into operation soon so that I can test solutions to the repository/reinstallation issues. __________________ Paul G. Taylor, Auckland, NZ LinuxUser_436483 - currently using Klikit-Linux 0.1-8 Lindows Life-time Insider, former life-time member of CNR Warehouse. Wiki : Reinstalling Linspire Applications

02-April-2008	#3
Bligh Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623 Rep Power: 6	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? I am running 5.0.59 and 5.1.427, barring hardware failure, I am set. However, I do appreciate the spirit of this effort, especially on behalf of those that have committed so much. I will reserve my comments on this entire matter for other threads. Cheers __________________ Joined 1/15/2003 Lifetime Fr Lifetime Wrld 1500 posts

02-April-2008	#4
Bro.Tiag Community Board Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,796 Rep Power: 10	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? The problem with yur poll here Paul, is it doesna take into account the masses that do not show up & use the forums. We've always been told we are but a fraction of the user base. None of that really matters, it's the principal of the issue. Cheers __________________ Since 08 Feb 07

02-April-2008	#5
JDoyle Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 7,946 Rep Power: 10	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? Prior/Earlier than Linspire 4.5 would mean 4.0 Which has not been supported since the release of 5.0 - 3 years ago. I doubt if anyone is still using 4.0 JD __________________ Freespire Forums Code of Conduct ... Linspire Community Standards

02-April-2008	#6
revhouse1 Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: No Man's Land Age: 45 Posts: 4,693 Rep Power: 10	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? I've got 5.0.59 on two machines and Freespire 1.0 on a third. tom __________________ "It only takes a little truth to ruin a perfectly good theory..." Community Board -- wiki liaison

03-April-2008	#21
subslug Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where the West Begins Posts: 6,364 Rep Power: 10	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? I only hope for your sake, a lot of people don't vote yes on here that have no intentions of actually using a legacy version. I honestly voted that I don't need this. I've gone back a few times and installed older versions but quickly realize how far we've come. If you're stuck, because of old hardware, using legacy versions I feel for you but if you're just using legacy because of stubbornness to update then I guess it's the price you have to pay. __________________ ::Mike:: Well, if this is my last post in these forums......seeya around.

03-April-2008	#27
kman Journeyman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alabama Age: 50 Posts: 223 Rep Power: 2	Re: Who has a need for Linspire 4.5 or 5.0 repositories? I still consider myself a beginner with linux even though ive been using freespire pretty much exclusivly since Jan. of 2007. I have tried so many distros of linux ( to many to list) . But i have found that freespire will install and run almost flawlesly on all five of my computers. All computers ranging in age from 10 years or more to 1year old. And i like that very much, but i was wondering if the reasons others may have left , if it might be that freespire is truely the easyest linux out there for beginners but hopefully gives you enough freedom to expand your knowledge and allow you to tweek your system. In other words have people left to challenge them selves to being able to install other distros and learn to use effectively?

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